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Posted on: 3/29/2021

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Why do "retail only" taxidermists say wholsaling is a bad thing?

Posted on: 4/16/2021

**This post meant to show you information about our services and to shine some light on the European mount taxidermy business model.

Recently, I did a Google search as I wanted to learn what everyone was saying about European mount taxidermists that do retail and wholesale at the same time. I noticed my local competition making comments about "We do not wholesale," and "We are retail only" taxidermist, and these comments have started since I opened my doors. Ask yourself, "Why now that RED EYE is open?" Are they trying to build up that being a wholesale taxidermist is a bad thing? While you think about that, let us dig deeper.

I think only the way to fully understand my business model is to first explain the European mounting business a little.

  1. Wholesaling customers and what to expect.

    • A wholesale customer is local taxidermists, forensic analysts, scientists, schools, and/or colleges that need a bulk amount of skulls completed by a certain date.

    • Traditional taxidermists have to work on shoulder mounts, full-body mounts, fish, reptiles, and etc. Mounting all of these mount types expands their turnaround times on European mounts. But what if there was a way to speed up their turnaround times? What if there was someone solely focused on the process of European mounts? That is where my taxidermy shop comes in.

    • The main difference between retail customers and wholesales customer is that a wholesale customer is bringing me 10+ mounts at a time. Due to bringing me bulk, and putting 50% down for the work, they get a bulk discounted price. (it is very comparable to the RED EYE veterans and loyalty discount rates) Are you aware that Amazon and a lot of other e-commerce websites you shop on, do what you call a Quantity Drop?

    • Just because they bring in 10-15 mounts does not mean your mount will be bumped further back in line. To prove it, I purchased an app and made it public to all my customer types. My goal is 100% customer satisfaction and I want to show you I am a 100% open and honest company! CLICK HERE to access the application.

    • Wholesaling and retailing are the same things! One customer type is simply providing us with bulk amounts of skulls from their customers and the other is for one or two skulls at a time. RED EYE knows its threshold to produce mounts in a timely manner and we have an algorithm we created that grows with the number of mounts we have in the shop in direct correlation with the time you drop off your animal. Our shop will continue to expand to fulfill the 3-5 month turnaround time for all mounts.

  2. A taxidermist must be good at skull whitening and have all of the processes to be able to keep up with the demand without shortcuts!

  3. To continue conducting business you must do a lot of skulls during "Season" as there are busy and very busy date ranges.

    • To do so you need the following:

      • You need systems in place that are expandable and scalable to grow based upon your customer base.

      • Those systems need to be sufficient enough to fulfill your processes workload.

      • When a customer brings in a skull, you need the space to store inbound specimens until they are ready to start the process. A nasty shop is very unwelcoming to new and returning customers.

      • Not everything is hands-on, but everything is a process. I hope that makes sense.

      • Once the specimen is complete, you will then need to store it in a climate-controlled area as high and low-temperature fluctuations can damage your skulls.

      • There is more, but I think this explains being able to stay in business/grow your business quite well.

  4. Cost-Effectiveness.

    • Knowing how to make amazing skulls is great, but being cost-effective is just as important. You can burn up your revenue stream with the tools, bills, and utility costs if you have a bad system in place. Even if you are doing small quantities. A major way to continue to do what you love is to work hard to find deals, partnerships, and you must always improve your processes and systems.

      • Some European mount taxidermists have not figured out a system, process or simply do not have the time or space. This limits their ability to start doing wholesaling and retailing combined. (most of the time, this is the reason for promoting it is a bad thing or "They only do retail European mounts."

      • Other taxidermists use our services because we do a great job whitening and preserving skulls/bones and our turnaround times are faster than they can get them done. Also, we are cost-effective for both Retail and Wholesale customers. You pay a Fair Market Price for your skull, and you buy the Plaque and hardware by the quality products we recommend. (or you bring in) I do not charge you an hourly rate for mounting it unless it is a Custom/Hand built plaque.

      • RED EYE makes money off of the skull works only, not the mounting. Again, unless it is a RED EYE built custom plaque, backing, or display.

  5. "Wholesaling and Retailing" Vs. "Retail only" European Mount Taxidermists.

    • As you read 1, 2, 3, and 4 above, do you see any difference in your current European mount taxidermist? I don't; except maybe their European mounting process is less in size and may be less efficient. Maybe they use older, slower, and less effective processes; equally as good in quality, and I am in no way stating they are not as good as RED EYE. With this paragraph, I am trying to show that companies will say whatever they choose to try to harm others' reputations and/or stop newer companies from taking business away from them. (That is not my goal what-so-ever)

  6. A little bit of information that goes a long way:

    • When you drop an animal off you I always remind you, "We can never be exact with the timeframe, but the estimated finish date sets a good benchmark for when your mount should be nearing completion. Please be aware, some take longer or shorter than estimated. Please understand, RED EYE focuses on quality instead of quick turnaround times. In the 2020-2021 season, we only had 6 mounts that took longer than expected as they were troublesome little buggers! The grease just did not want to release from the skull.

    • Wholesale customers are aware that their mounts are placed into the process in the order they were received. They also know, they can finish their "other mount types" faster and make more money; while their customer's European mounts are being worked on and they did not have to lift a finger. (kind of free money for them, if you think about it)

    • Our European mounting process improves European Mounting Pricing within 50-100 miles. Companies like mine allow for prices to stay at a fair market price. We won't get into that conversation any deeper. That can and will take us down a rabbit hole. Ask me when you come to the shop and I will gladly explain it to you.

With all of the above said, I hope you see that representing wholesale and retail customers does not change the game, it makes the game better.

If you would like to discuss this post: 812-646-1313 or you can stop in.

John Elpers


IC 35-43-2-2Criminal trespass; denial of entry; denial by posting with purple marks; permission to enter; exceptions

Sec. 2. (a) As used in this section, "authorized person" means a person authorized by an agricultural operation to act on behalf of the agricultural operation.

(b) A person who:

(1) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of another person after having been denied entry by the other person or that person's agent;

(2) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally refuses to leave the real property of another person after having been asked to leave by the other person or that person's agent;

(3) accompanies another person in a vehicle, with knowledge that the other person knowingly or intentionally is exerting unauthorized control over the vehicle;

(4) knowingly or intentionally interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without the person's consent;

(5) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the:

(A) property of an agricultural operation that is used for the production, processing, propagation, packaging, cultivation, harvesting, care, management, or storage of an animal, plant, or other agricultural product, including any pasturage or land used for timber management, without the consent of the owner of the agricultural operation or an authorized person; or

(B) dwelling of another person without the person's consent;

(6) knowingly or intentionally:

(A) travels by train without lawful authority or the railroad carrier's consent; and

(B) rides on the outside of a train or inside a passenger car, locomotive, or freight car, including a boxcar, flatbed, or container without lawful authority or the railroad carrier's consent;

(7) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters or refuses to leave the property of another person after having been prohibited from entering or asked to leave the property by a law enforcement officer when the property is:

(A) vacant real property (as defined in IC 36-7-36-5) or a vacant structure (as defined in IC 36-7-36-6); or

(B) designated by a municipality or county enforcement authority to be abandoned property or an abandoned structure (as defined in IC 36-7-36-1);

(8) not having a contractual interest in the property, knowingly or intentionally enters the real property of an agricultural operation (as defined in IC 32-30-6-1) without the permission of the owner of the agricultural operation or an authorized person, and knowingly or intentionally engages in conduct that causes property damage to:

(A) the owner of or a person having a contractual interest in the agricultural operation;

(B) the operator of the agricultural operation; or

(C) a person having personal property located on the property of the agricultural operation; or

(9) knowingly or intentionally enters the property of another person after being denied entry by a court order that has been issued to the person or issued to the general public by conspicuous posting on or around the premises in areas where a person can observe the order when the property has been designated by a municipality or county enforcement authority to be a vacant property, an abandoned property, or an abandoned structure (as defined in IC 36-7-36-1);

commits criminal trespass, a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Level 6 felony if it is committed on a scientific research facility, on a key facility, on a facility belonging to a public utility (as defined in IC 32-24-1-5.9(a)), on school property, or on a school bus or the person has a prior unrelated conviction for an offense under this section concerning the same property. The offense is a Level 6 felony, for purposes of subdivision (8), if the property damage is more than seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) and less than fifty thousand dollars ($50,000). The offense is a Level 5 felony, for purposes of subdivision (8), if the property damage is at least fifty thousand dollars ($50,000).

(c) A person has been denied entry under subsection (b)(1) when the person has been denied entry by means of:

(1) personal communication, oral or written;

(2) posting or exhibiting a notice at the main entrance in a manner that is either prescribed by law or likely to come to the attention of the public;

(3) a hearing authority or court order under IC 32-30-6, IC 32-30-7, IC 32-30-8, IC 36-7-9, or IC 36-7-36; or

(4) posting the property by placing identifying purple marks on trees or posts around the area where entry is denied.

(d) For the purposes of subsection (c)(4):

(1) each purple mark must be readily visible to any person approaching the property and must be placed:

(A) on a tree:

(i) as a vertical line of at least eight (8) inches in length and with the bottom of the mark at least three (3) feet and not more than five (5) feet from the ground; and

(ii) not more than one hundred (100) feet from the nearest other marked tree; or

(B) on a post:

(i) with the mark covering at least the top two (2) inches of the post, and with the bottom of the mark at least three (3) feet and not more than five (5) feet six (6) inches from the ground; and

(ii) not more than thirty-six (36) feet from the nearest other marked post; and

(2) before a purple mark that would be visible from both sides of a fence shared by different property owners or lessees may be applied, all of the owners or lessees of the properties must agree to post the properties with purple marks under subsection (c)(4).

(e) A law enforcement officer may not deny entry to property or ask a person to leave a property under subsection (b)(7) unless there is reasonable suspicion that criminal activity has occurred or is occurring.

(f) A person described in subsection (b)(7) violates subsection (b)(7) unless the person has the written permission of the owner, the owner's agent, an enforcement authority, or a court to come onto the property for purposes of performing maintenance, repair, or demolition.

(g) A person described in subsection (b)(9) violates subsection (b)(9) unless the court that issued the order denying the person entry grants permission for the person to come onto the property.

(h) Subsections (b), (c), and (g) do not apply to the following:

(1) A passenger on a train.

(2) An employee of a railroad carrier while engaged in the performance of official duties.

(3) A law enforcement officer, firefighter, or emergency response personnel while engaged in the performance of official duties.

(4) A person going on railroad property in an emergency to rescue a person or animal from harm's way or to remove an object that the person reasonably believes poses an imminent threat to life or limb.

(5) A person on the station grounds or in the depot of a railroad carrier:

(A) as a passenger; or

(B) for the purpose of transacting lawful business.

(6) A:

(A) person; or

(B) person's:

(i) family member;

(ii) invitee;

(iii) employee;

(iv) agent; or

(v) independent contractor;

going on a railroad's right-of-way for the purpose of crossing at a private crossing site approved by the railroad carrier to obtain access to land that the person owns, leases, or operates.

(7) A person having written permission from the railroad carrier to go on specified railroad property.

(8) A representative of the Indiana department of transportation while engaged in the performance of official duties.

(9) A representative of the federal Railroad Administration while engaged in the performance of official duties.

(10) A representative of the National Transportation Safety Board while engaged in the performance of official duties.

As added by Acts 1976, P.L.148, SEC.3. Amended by Acts 1977, P.L.340, SEC.43; P.L.151-1989, SEC.12; P.L.242-1993, SEC.2; P.L.164-1993, SEC.11; P.L.1-1994, SEC.168; P.L.259-1999, SEC.3; P.L.158-2009, SEC.7; P.L.88-2009, SEC.4; P.L.203-2013, SEC.25; P.L.158-2013, SEC.462; P.L.21-2014, SEC.3; P.L.32-2016, SEC.1; P.L.181-2018, SEC.20.


Taxidermist License IC 14-22-21-1 "Taxidermist" defined

Sec. 1. As used in this chapter, "taxidermist" means a person who receives wild animals or parts of wild animals for the purpose of performing taxidermy service for any other person.

IC 14-22-21-2 Issuance; fee

Sec. 2. The department may, under rules adopted under IC 4-22-2, issue to a person, upon payment of a fee of fifteen dollars ($15), a license to possess for taxidermy purposes a wild animal or the hide or skin of a wild animal:

    1. protected by Indiana law; and

    2. during the closed season for the animal.

IC 14-22-21-3 Expiration

    1. Sec. 3. A taxidermist license expires December 31 after the date of issue.

IC 14-22-21-4 Possession of wild animals for taxidermy purposes

Sec. 4. A person may:

  1. without a license; and

  2. for taxidermy purposes; possess a wild animal not protected by Indiana law.

IC 14-22-21-5 Possession of mounted wild animals

Sec. 5. A person may possess at any time a wild animal legally taken in open season and mounted.


312 IAC 9-10-5 Taxidermist licenses

Authority: IC 14-22-2-6; IC 14-22-21

Affected: IC 4-21.5; IC 14-22 Sec. 5. (a) A license is required under this section for an individual who performs taxidermy services on a wild animal for another person.

(b) An application for a taxidermist license shall be completed on a departmental form.

(c) A license holder must maintain accurate records, on a calendar year basis, showing the names and addresses of persons from or to whom wild animals were received or delivered. The records shall:

    1. include the:

      • (a) species and numbers of wild animals; and

      • (B) dates of receipt and delivery; and

    2. be retained at the premises of the license holder for at least two (2) years after the end of the license year.

    3. A copy of the records must be provided to a conservation officer upon request.

(d) The carcass or any part or portion of a wild animal that is delivered to a taxidermist must be tagged with the following information:

  1. The name and address of the person making a delivery to the taxidermist.

  2. The species of animal.

  3. The:

    1. (A) date and manner; and

    2. (B) location, including the county and state or country (if taken outside the United States), where; the animal was obtained.

(e) A taxidermist shall not remove from the carcass, except during active taxidermy operations, the tag described in subsection (d).

(f) A taxidermist may sell a lawfully acquired and mounted specimen of a wild animal, where the:

    1. tag is affixed, and the sale is immediately recorded in a logbook.

(g) A taxidermist shall not possess a wild animal taken outside the season except under a permit obtained from the department under this subsection. A permit for a special taxidermy mount of a protected species may be granted under this subsection only to an agency or institution that engages in wildlife education or research as a primary function.

(h) Any:

    1. record, tag, logbook, or other documentation required under this section; and storage or work area; of a taxidermist shall be made available upon request for inspection by a conservation officer.

(i) A federal taxidermy permit is required to perform taxidermy work on any migratory bird except a mute swan. (j) A license may be suspended, denied, or revoked under IC 4-21.5 if the license holder fails to comply with any of the following:

    1. A provision of a license issued under this section.

    2. IC 14-22-21. (Natural Resources Commission; 312 IAC 9-10-5; filed May 12, 1997, 10:00 a.m.: 20 IR 2729; readopted filed Jul 28, 2003, 12:00 p.m.: 27 IR 286)


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